This is the first time I have responded to a question in "Acrobat Talk" so
forgive me if I do it incorrectly.

I am responding to ZwickSan who is inquiring about a round trip in Acrobat.
You probably haven't received an answer because there are as many
"work-arounds" as there are products that work with Acrobat - and it is
covered in the Acrobat Guide if you look under "Selecting" text. Acrobat is
at the distribution end of the document chain; not the creation. Therefore,
it does not "go back" elegantly.

My assumption: This is an electronic document which was converted from Word
to PDF.

My response:

The preferred way to update a pdf is to go back to the original, do another
conversion to PDF and a compare documents in Exchange - then change the
original - but it sounds as though you cannot or do not have that option.
Many of us have begged Adobe to do "round-tripping" better and they said
they would work on it... we'll see. For now, here is the way I do it when I
have to.

1. Open the doc in Acrobat Exchange 4.x -this will not work in 3.x
versions.
2. Open the Adobe Help Guide in the Help Main Menu item to Page 285 - be
sure to look at Page 288 concerning retaining the formatting:
Excerpt --{"Selecting tables and formatted text (Windows)"

The table/formatted text select tool allows you to select tables and text
in a PDF document and retain the original formatting when
the material is copied (or imported) into other applications. You can
specify vertical or horizontal format, the type of text flow, and
whether you want ANSI (simple text) or Rich Text Format (RTF). You can copy
and export selected tables and text in the following
ways:}

It goes on for several pages.

3. Open Word and paste -- I suggest opening a document in Word that would
have the same "Styles" that you want your
pasted text to be and use it as a template - or open a blank template if
you have one that is what you want.

NO, THE PDF WILL NOT AUTOMATICALLY FORMAT TO THE WORD STYLES. You will have
to do a lot of cleanup.

NO, THE PAGE LAYOUT AND PAGINATION WILL NOT BE MAINTAINED EITHER.

YES, YOU WILL HAVE TO DO A GLOBAL SWEEP IN WORD TO GET RID OF THE HARD
CODED RETURNS THAT
ARE INHERENT IN ACROBAT.

Is this better than re-typing? It depends on how large the document is and
what your QA processes are for conversion.

ANOTHER WAY...
This may seem strange, but I sometimes get MUCH better results doing
this... especially with electronic documents (meaning ones that have not
been scanned; but have been saved as pdf).

1. Save your PDF as an EPS.
2. Open it in Photoshop (I don't know if you have Photoshop, but I suspect
so) and Save it as a .TIF
3. Open it in Text Bridge and do the capture.

Hope this helps - it isn't easy either way, but it does beat any number of
ways we used to do conversions as recently as five years ago.

Best of luck

Sharon Kadlec
Northwest Airlines, Inc.
sharon.kadlec@nwa.com




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